Comments on: Grant Writing Credentials Redux http://blog.seliger.com/2008/02/13/grant-writing-credentials-redux/ Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:49:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Bill Smith http://blog.seliger.com/2008/02/13/grant-writing-credentials-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-10804 Bill Smith Fri, 17 Jul 2009 22:09:38 +0000 http://blog.seliger.com/2008/02/13/grant-writing-credentials-redux/#comment-10804 I find both humor and sadness in this and Mr. Seliger's previous blog concerning the GPC credential for grant professionals. The first post, in particular, betrayed a hunger for going on a rant, more than for doing the work of a journalist by clicking a few handy links on the http://grantcredential.org web site in order to find the real story. Yes, I am one of scores of grant professionals around the country who were involved in developing the GPC exam. I have always said that this credential is not for everyone, but for many it is clearly of value. But the inference that GPCI is just selling something and universities are not, is way absurd. I can tell you that I and nearly 100 others around the country have donated many personal hours to develop the GPC, at the sacrifice of our own organizations and consultancies and at the sacrifice of family time. This process has not been a social club. It has been hard work and, by now, grant professionals have devoted tens of thousands of hours to bring the credential this far. No one is getting rich off of this. There is no GPCI payroll -- quite the contrary. If GPCI ever does recoup the direct costs associated, then revenue will merely be rolled back in to further improve and update the exam. I don't mind people saying they have no use for this credential. What I do take exception to is ranting without researching and, especially, the implication that GPCI is just out to make a buck. Apologies may be posted here. I find both humor and sadness in this and Mr. Seliger’s previous blog concerning the GPC credential for grant professionals. The first post, in particular, betrayed a hunger for going on a rant, more than for doing the work of a journalist by clicking a few handy links on the http://grantcredential.org web site in order to find the real story. Yes, I am one of scores of grant professionals around the country who were involved in developing the GPC exam. I have always said that this credential is not for everyone, but for many it is clearly of value. But the inference that GPCI is just selling something and universities are not, is way absurd. I can tell you that I and nearly 100 others around the country have donated many personal hours to develop the GPC, at the sacrifice of our own organizations and consultancies and at the sacrifice of family time. This process has not been a social club. It has been hard work and, by now, grant professionals have devoted tens of thousands of hours to bring the credential this far. No one is getting rich off of this. There is no GPCI payroll — quite the contrary. If GPCI ever does recoup the direct costs associated, then revenue will merely be rolled back in to further improve and update the exam. I don’t mind people saying they have no use for this credential. What I do take exception to is ranting without researching and, especially, the implication that GPCI is just out to make a buck. Apologies may be posted here.

]]> By: Kyle N http://blog.seliger.com/2008/02/13/grant-writing-credentials-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-220 Kyle N Mon, 17 Mar 2008 01:33:55 +0000 http://blog.seliger.com/2008/02/13/grant-writing-credentials-redux/#comment-220 Right on, there is no way to learn how to write a successful grant proposal from a couple of workshops, rather scam-shops. These so called grant writing workshops are all a scam. I am working on my bachelors degree and have taken 9 hours of classes to become a real grant writer. This 9 hours is just the begining, these classes cannot be taken all in one semester hence the huge volume of work required for each class. And then a required internship with real writers such as the United Way or local government, places that really do write grants. I wish there was some way to shut down these fools that scam so many people every day. If interested there is a comprehensive accredation thru my school, google, Fort Hays State University. This is real grant writing. Sorry no spell check. Thanks Kyle N. Right on, there is no way to learn how to write a successful grant proposal from a couple of workshops, rather scam-shops. These so called grant writing workshops are all a scam. I am working on my bachelors degree and have taken 9 hours of classes to become a real grant writer. This 9 hours is just the begining, these classes cannot be taken all in one semester hence the huge volume of work required for each class. And then a required internship with real writers such as the United Way or local government, places that really do write grants. I wish there was some way to shut down these fools that scam so many people every day. If interested there is a comprehensive accredation thru my school, google, Fort Hays State University. This is real grant writing. Sorry no spell check.
Thanks Kyle N.

]]> By: Sarah- NY http://blog.seliger.com/2008/02/13/grant-writing-credentials-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-140 Sarah- NY Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:34:45 +0000 http://blog.seliger.com/2008/02/13/grant-writing-credentials-redux/#comment-140 So, are any of these professional grant writing training programs acredited academically? I am looking for one that I can get undergraduate credit for. My college does not offer it as a course. So, are any of these professional grant writing training programs acredited academically? I am looking for one that I can get undergraduate credit for. My college does not offer it as a course.

]]> By: Roxanne Barger http://blog.seliger.com/2008/02/13/grant-writing-credentials-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-70 Roxanne Barger Sat, 16 Feb 2008 15:35:36 +0000 http://blog.seliger.com/2008/02/13/grant-writing-credentials-redux/#comment-70 I was very surprised to find this website, thanks to a colleague in the non-profit sector who suggested it to me in order to help me prepare successful grants for our endeavors. I came across the blog by accident. I have an undergraduate degree in English/Journalism from a highly accredited university and an MBA/MA in business and education. I must say that even I have been fascinated by the number of organizations both on and off the web that offer grantwriting services from people who have not had college training in the subject. I'm not suggesting that the only people capable of writing grants are people who have degrees. But I agree with the original blogger that for the prices charged for these services, one wonders who is buying them. Especially since most of the services offered (except the actual writing - can be done for free). I was very surprised to find this website, thanks to a colleague in the non-profit sector who suggested it to me in order to help me prepare successful grants for our endeavors. I came across the blog by accident. I have an undergraduate degree in English/Journalism from a highly accredited university and an MBA/MA in business and education.

I must say that even I have been fascinated by the number of organizations both on and off the web that offer grantwriting services from people who have not had college training in the subject.

I’m not suggesting that the only people capable of writing grants are people who have degrees. But I agree with the original blogger that for the prices charged for these services, one wonders who is buying them. Especially since most of the services offered (except the actual writing – can be done for free).

]]> By: Jennie Lovett http://blog.seliger.com/2008/02/13/grant-writing-credentials-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-59 Jennie Lovett Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:07:38 +0000 http://blog.seliger.com/2008/02/13/grant-writing-credentials-redux/#comment-59 The trend towards "certifying" almost every profession doesn't end with grant writing...in Ohio you can now become a <a href="http://www.cnpofohio.com/" rel="nofollow">certified networking professional</a>, and I don't mean computer networks, but handshake, business card, 10 second elevator speech networking. I'm with you guys on the wait-and-see approach to the grant writing credential, and have relied on my job experience and advanced degree as "good enough" for now. If a potential client ever turns me down due to lack of this credential, I'll start to get interested. The trend towards “certifying” almost every profession doesn’t end with grant writing…in Ohio you can now become a certified networking professional, and I don’t mean computer networks, but handshake, business card, 10 second elevator speech networking. I’m with you guys on the wait-and-see approach to the grant writing credential, and have relied on my job experience and advanced degree as “good enough” for now. If a potential client ever turns me down due to lack of this credential, I’ll start to get interested.

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